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Apostolic Mentoring
"This & That!"
Rev. DJ Hill
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Chapters

• 0:56 The Power of Apostolic Mentoring
• 30:45 Church Growth Power and Structure
• 59:35 Global Harvest Conversation With Pastor Adam

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:56

wwwserahmus mornings. Where is the Lord? Everybody, and welcome to apostolic filtering, loria. I greet you in the mighty name of Jesus from Eureka, california. It's been such a joy to be here with the Eureka Pentecostal Church this weekend. We love Pastor and Sister McDonald in this tremendous apostolic body of believers. He allowed me to hijack his office and I am surrounded by deer heads. The animal is not deer heads. Animal is not deer heads. He is searching right now on Google how to say deer heads Awesome Wow.

Speaker 1 2:37

We're so excited about what God has been doing through apostolic mentoring. We are now in our third season of equipping millions to reach billions. In the last month, the whole month of January, we focused on the five-third ministry. I want to encourage everybody one more time to go back to those sessions on the YouTube channel or the podcast. All of them are already uploaded. You need to watch those episodes about the five-third ministry. I also want to say thank you to our global apostolic mentoring family. There are over four million global podcasts.

Speaker 2 4:20

There are over four million podcasts in the world.

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And God has anointed apostolic mentoring and we are now in the top 25% of all global podcasts. Every where we go in the world, people are coming to us talking about how apostolic mentoring is changing their lives and ministries. I want to thank all of you, great apostolic believers around the world, who tune in every week to be a part of these kingdom critical sessions. I'd like to ask everybody to do us a favor. Go on to your favorite podcast platform. Subscribe to Apostolic Mentoring. They will also help if you leave a review of what you think about apostolic mentoring as well.

Speaker 2 6:05

Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, don't just leave any review.

Speaker 1 6:21

We are holding fast at a five-star review, so let's keep that going. As a matter of fact, my mom used to say if you don't have anything good to say, don't say it at all. So say something good that would be great. But we are so excited about our guests today. This man of God is legit apostolic. He is the youth ministry's president of the United Pentecostal Church International. This guy is like TNT. Like every time I see him, he's bouncing off the kingdom walls.

Speaker 1 7:47

He's got kingdom vision and God has anointed him to be a kingdom leader in the greatest hour of the church. And I want to say as a United Pentecostal Church missionary. We have been so blessed by youth ministry. We've been missionaries a long time, so we were back when it was a sheaves for Christ offering, and the youth ministries of the United Pentecostal Church blessed us with a vehicle many, many times all around the world. And now Move. The Mission has just multiplied and they are facilitating the kingdom globally. So here, we love you, we thank God for your leadership and we want you to take your liberty today. God bless you, friend.

Speaker 2 10:38

Thank you so much, Brother Robinette.

Speaker 3 10:40

And thank you to the apostolic mentoring community for having me on.

Speaker 2 10:45

And thank you to the apostolic mentoring community for inviting me.

Speaker 3 10:49

There really is a great mission ahead of us and we all get to be a part of it. Do you remember the first person you ever taught a Bible study to and it finally made sense that there is only one God and that they need to be born again? And they weren't just hearers of the words, but they followed what Scripture says. Do you remember the joy they felt when they came out of the water, when they started to speak in an unlearned language, as God gave them the ability?

Speaker 2 11:52

For now, we believe.

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She's paused right now, but do you remember that joy that you felt when you reached one person? Now multiply that. Multiply that by billions. The joy in heaven. The joy in heaven when we see the end time revival that God has promised to his church. Take a moment and thank God for that end time revival.

Speaker 3 12:28

I praise you right now for what you're going to do, what you're already doing in our midst, how you're changing lives. God, I give you the praise that you've given us this promise and we're going to seek after it. We're going to go after it with everything that we have. God, I pray for apostolic power and demonstration to be present in every Bible study and every service and every interaction and every prayer that we do, that your power is demonstrated in our midst. I pray that you can move even more modally. Bless your word as it goes forth today. Bless the interpreters. Bless the people that are watching all over. Bless the people that are going to listen later on during podcasts. Let our lives be forever changed as we open up your word to receive what you have for us as God.

Speaker 3 13:08

Your word speaks to us and challenges us. It gives us a biblical principle to guide and direct our lives each and every day. We give you all the praise for it and we believe for the billions and billions that are going to be saved and the joy that's going to be in heaven. God has the angels rejoice. The angels rejoice not just over one soul they do over one soul but God is your spirit is being poured out. You prophesied it in Joel, it happened in the book of Acts, but God, let it continue to happen even greater. Here today, we give you the praise for it, we give you the honor for it in the name of Jesus Christ. You believe that, wherever you're at, why don't you just clap your hands, maybe even lift your voice for a moment? Thank you, jesus, for what you're going to do, what you've already done in the past. We give you the great honor and thanks and praise for it. But, god, with anticipation for what's going to lie ahead, we praise you for it In Jesus name.

Speaker 1 14:01

In Jesus name, Brother Hill, if you just hold one second, I'm trying to see if I can get Sister Mitchell to jump in. I got her, I got her right here. If you can go right back into Spanish, go ahead, brother, she's with us.

Speaker 3 14:16

Sister Mitchell, thank you so much for jumping in. So I want us to turn our attention first to Romans, chapter one. Romans, chapter one, in verse 16, says this For I'm not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believe it, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek, to this apostolic mentoring community, I want to remind us that there is power in the name of Jesus.

Speaker 3 15:21

That, if we only get one thing right, let us go forth in the power that is in the name. That's who we are. We are people of the name. Today's world is a lot like ancient Rome. The world was broken back then as it is now. Sin was everywhere, people were unkind and angry and violent People. Immorality was everywhere, there was division and war. The family unit was broken, and Paul writes this letter to the church in Rome.

Speaker 3 16:37

A group of people that weren't Jewish and though he wasn't able to travel there yet, paul wanted to remind them what I'm reminding us of today that there is power in the name of Jesus. Paul was from a place called Tarsus. He left Tarsus and went to preach to the Gentiles, just as we are called to preach to the billions and reach the billions. Jonah ran to Tarsus. He was running from the call of God, but Paul went from Tarsus to the people. And Paul went in the power of the name. He was extremely educated. He could talk to the smartest people in the world, but he also can make the gospel make sense to the common man. This is a principle. My pastor, brother John's, we call it this and that this, and that you and I don't have to choose between power and being practical. We don't have to choose between being structured or being spiritual. We can have both.

Speaker 4 19:07

We can live for God and have fun while also being spirit led, and when we put those together, then we can see the end time revival that God has for us.

Speaker 3 19:33

So don't choose this or that. It's this and that this is throughout all of Scripture, as we just talked about with Paul where he was educated yet spiritually powerful.

Speaker 3 20:00

A great way to illustrate this is the children of Israel In the Old Testament. They were following the spirit through the wilderness when the spirit moved. The children of Israel moved In the Rabanet. When the spirit moved, millions moved. But when the spirit moved, that's not when they started to make decisions. They had structure, so when the spirit moved they could follow it. So the spirit's moving, who's getting the animals? Who's getting the kids? Who's getting the tabernacle? Who's directing traffic? They had to know before the spirit moved who was doing what. They were structured around the spirit so that when the spirit moved, millions could go after billions. That is what the apostolic mentor and community is about.

Speaker 3 22:00

It's connecting many around the spirit so that we all have marching orders to reach billions.

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There's an author by the name of Will McAnee and he talks about four different things that the church has. The first thing that he mentions is a place. A place is very important to have. When Judas betrayed Jesus, he knew the place where he would be praying. When the man was paralyzed, they knew the place where Jesus was. The pool of Bethesda was a place for people to be healed, and so I know all over the world we focus on the place. We want a great place of worship, we want the church to be appealing for guests to come in. We want tents or stadiums to be packed. We want a place, but a place never replaces the power of God, because where two or three are gathered together, there he is.

Speaker 3 24:07

Whether it's in the place or not the second thing that the author talks about is personality. Our personalities must be subjected to the Spirit of God. We should make sure that we have the fruit of the Spirit. People should be drawn to Christ by how they interact with us. People knew the disciples were with Jesus because of the way they talked and acted. So we need to have the right personality. The next thing that the author talks about is people. We need to have the right people in place in our churches. People are very important because it's team ministry. We need to grow our pastoral teams and our leadership teams. The more people we have in the labor in the harvest the more laborers can be a part of reaping the harvest.

Speaker 3 25:51

And the last thing the author writes about is programs. We must have good systems in our community. You knew when to log on to this podcast and to watch this video because of a program. There was a structure that let us know when to meet. You need to have a good structure for your Sunday school department. The music department needs to be excellent.

Speaker 4 26:47

The music team needs to be excellent.

Speaker 3 26:51

Everything that we do in the church should be done for the glory of God.

Speaker 4 26:56

Everything that we do in the church should be done for the glory of God.

Speaker 3 27:00

But that's just all the practical things, the place and personality.

Speaker 4 27:06

The place and personality.

Speaker 3 27:09

The programs and the people. All of those is the practical. Now I remind you, we don't choose this or that. It's this and that, but what separates us from everybody else in the world?

Speaker 4 27:35

is not the place.

Church Growth Power and Structure

Speaker 3 27:44

Because if we have a good place, we're just a museum. If we just have a good personality, we're just a politician. If we just have a good people group, we're just a social club. And if we have good programs but we don't have the power of God, then we're just a convenient store or a Walmart kind of system. So we need the place and personality, we need the programs and the people. We excel at all of that, but that never takes the place of the power of God. Romans 1.16,. Paul writes for I am not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the death barrel and resurrection of Jesus, for that is the power of God Under salvation to the Jew and to the Greek. Paul was willing to reach the billions and he understood. It wasn't by man's wisdom, but it's by the power of Jesus Christ and him crucified.

Speaker 4 29:54

And he wanted to challenge us today.

Speaker 3 30:00

We're not in competition with any other church.

Speaker 4 30:08

They're always going to have a nicer place. They can always hire a good personality, they can always surround themselves with good people and they have some great systems.

Speaker 3 30:30

But those things alone will never change lives. So what you have and what I have, whether it's a small work or a bigger church, whether right now it's just a Bible study with one person or with 1,000, you and I have the power. That's in the name of Jesus. And when you put the practical with a powerful, that's when you have Acts, chapter 2. When you put the powerful with the practical, you have 120 in an upper room. When you put the powerful and the practical together, the preaching doesn't stay in the place. It's not just about Peter's personality. There is not a lot of programs, but 3,000 are filled with the gift of the Holy Ghost and baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, and God adds to the church daily. So today, what I want us to remember, is that there is power in the name of Jesus.

Speaker 3 32:30

I know the temptation is to focus on getting a good and nice place. We read self-improvement books and that's good. We spent time trying to craft good systems and programs.

Speaker 4 32:57

But to that broken individual to the broken world.

Speaker 3 33:00

just like Rome, Paul said there is power in the name of Jesus. So apostolic mentoring community, I just want to remind you preach Jesus.

Speaker 3 33:23

Grow in this and that, but don't let that replace this. We preach Jesus To the people that are sick. We preach Jesus To the people that are struggling. We preach Jesus no matter their background. There is power in the name of Jesus. There is power to break every stronghold, To heal all sickness, To provide and to deliver. There is power in the mighty name of Jesus. Why don't you lift your hands right now and just accept that word that you've?

Speaker 4 34:21

been reminded.

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God, help me to operate in your power each and every day. I'm helping you to try to do it with my mind, or my heart, but instead, god, help me to operate in your power, that every single person that's on this call and everybody that's going to be listening later, I pray that there's apostolic demonstration, that we take apostolic authority everywhere we go, that we don't forget about that. We need the place and personality, we need the people and the programs, but we don't only reach for that.

Speaker 3 35:23

But God, we get a hold of your power, the power that raises the dead. The power that causes the blind to see, that helps the lame to walk. God, that's who we are. We are people of the name God. Restore your power. Restore your power, god. We need your power In.

Speaker 4 36:07

Jesus name.

Speaker 3 36:10

Rome was a broken place and Paul could have came with a lot of different strategies, he could have tried a lot of different things, and Paul understood what I want us to understand the million man group of Israelites could only make it through the wilderness because they were structured while being spirit led. And so, just as the Israelites, just as Paul, we need structure. But I felt in my spirit to remind us that it's not just about structure. Let's not put too much of our focus on structure. I'm not saying get rid of it, but what I am saying is make sure that we have the power. We are not just another group of people.

Speaker 4 37:43

We are people with power.

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Acts 1, verse 8 says this you shall receive power.

Speaker 4 37:57

You shall receive power.

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Now we're going to have to structure the church. That's what the letters to the church are. Paul said things should be done in decency and in order.

Speaker 4 38:14

Paul said things should be done in decency and in order.

Speaker 3 38:20

But he also said don't neglect the power. So I wonder could you search your heart right now? Can you search your mind right now? Have you and I been trying to replace the power of God With something that we can do in our own might? We need structure, but it's not by power or by might. We need structure but it's by the spirit of God that billions will be reached. So today, let us be reminded of his word that it's this and that we need the structure but I need the spirit every day.

Speaker 3 39:45

Who do I pray for? What kind of ministry do I need to do? What do I preach? What programs do we need to start? What leader do I need to invest in? I want to be strategic in structure, but I want his spirit to lead me every day. The miraculous is unlocked when we follow his spirit. God will give the place. If we are following the spirit, If we follow the spirit, we pray God. Where are the labors?

Speaker 4 40:41

If we follow the spirit, we will have the personality, because we are going to have the fruit of the spirit. If we follow his word, we will have the programs.

Speaker 3 41:01

If we follow his word, we will have the programs. But it all starts that we are not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ, because it's the power.

Speaker 4 41:23

That's what's going to save the world.

Speaker 3 41:27

It's not you and me, it's the power of God To save the Jew and the Greek, and so let us reach for the power.

Speaker 4 41:47

We might be educated like Saul.

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But let us reach for the power, but let us reach for the power we might be before kings like Paul. But let us reach for the power. We might be talking one-on-one to someone like Paul, but let us reach for the power. You might be in a place like Rome when it feels like the kingdom of darkness is winning, but let us be like Paul.

Speaker 4 42:28

Let us get a hold of the power that's going to save billions. One more time, lift your hands and lift your voice with me.

Speaker 3 42:35

Let us reach for the power.

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Let us reach for the power, let us reach for the power. One more time lift your hands and lift your voice with me.

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Cry out to God right now and get a hold of that power. Once again, we're going to have this and that.

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But let us make sure we have that power. Let us make sure we have that power.

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Oh God, help me. I always have your power.

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God, I'm going to work as hard as I can. I'm going to do everything that I can.

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God, I'm going to plan and I'm going to structure, but, god, help me to never forget your power, the power that's going to save lives, the spirit leading that's going to lead millions to reach billions. God, help us to be structured around your spirit and to be spirit led. God, we need your power.

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And.

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God, I am going to work as hard as I can.

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God, help us to have your power. Help us to have your power and not replace your power with anything else.

Speaker 3 44:35

In Jesus' name.

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In Jesus' name, we take a moment and let his word speak to your heart. It's this and that.

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But are you trying to replace his power with anything else?

Speaker 4 45:01

If so, let's have the right priorities today. So we can be a part of the revival that he has for the church. Search me Jesus, search me Jesus, search me Jesus.

Speaker 3 45:27

Search me, jesus. Search me Jesus. Brother Rabinette, there's a great big need ahead.

Speaker 4 45:42

Brother Rabinette, there's a great need ahead, but I just have a really easy reminder.

Speaker 3 45:53

It's pretty simple we need structure. The first century church didn't have a problem with church growth. They had a problem with church structure. But I think we've gotten so good with church structure that we forgot how to grow the church. It's this and that, and the way to grow the church the way to get to the billions.

Speaker 4 46:43

The way to get to the billions.

Speaker 3 46:47

The power of God, I'll never do it in my mind. Everything I do, let it be done with your spirit leading me In Jesus' name. Brother Robinette, I turn it back over to you.

Speaker 1 47:27

I will never do it in my mind. I will never do it in my mind.

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In the word of the Lord, we receive you today.

Speaker 1 47:48

Yes, hallelujah. This and that together facilitates billions. I was crooked in my spirit while Esther Hill was teaching, while he was equipping us for kingdom work in this hour. That scripture in Galatians 3 and 3. It said are you so foolish, are you so crazy? Having begun in the spirit, are you now made perfect by the flesh? Oh God, help the church here in the last hour. Help us to not pivot to the arm and the flesh. What God has here is the spirit. What God has here is that God will raise them, that built structure, the spirit of the Lord, that facilitated, gifting, that word of wisdom, that word of knowledge, those kingdom helps, that God put in the body the gifts of, helps Facilitating God, god himself, facilitating a structure that could facilitate a billion of souls added to the church. Oh God, help us to realize we need this and that.

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We don't need chaos.

Speaker 1 50:27

We don't need control, but we need structure and spirit, those two things together the how we reach this world.

Speaker 1 50:46

I believe together. They're the how, the structure, and the spirit is the how we do this. People that shun structure are fools. People that shun the spirit are ignorant. It is this and that that's how we're going to see billions. That's how we're going to see Revelation 7 and 9 come to pass. It's a great multitude that no man can number. It's God's church working together, being led by the spirit but having the structure in place so that we can do big stuff in God's kingdom. Oh, my goodness, what a word. Brother Hill, we are so thankful for you.

Speaker 4 52:01

Thank you.

Speaker 1 52:04

Thankful for youth ministries, the team that's working alongside of you.

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Thank you for your vision.

Speaker 1 52:17

Thank you for the way that youth ministries facilitates global harvest. There are a lot of missionaries that watch these episodes every single week. They're in vehicles that the vision God gave you is putting underneath them. Matter of fact. Brother Hill, I want to say thank you. I'll tell you something kind of funny.

Speaker 4 53:06

About 10 years ago.

Speaker 1 53:08

I noticed in my global missions account that I had been given $10,000 for motorcycle. We all have to understand global missions is kind of like the US government If you get money from them, you gotta sometimes you gotta make sure you were intended, because they'll get it back. So I have to be very transparent. For 10 years I didn't tell anybody that I had this 10,000 in my account because I was afraid that if anybody found out they were going to take it. Now, if I was to be really transparent, I was thinking if I hold this long enough, I can buy a Harley. But I sat on this money for 10 years pausing the advancement of the gospel out of fear. But last year I found out how to use those funds.

Speaker 4 55:09

And we bought five motorcycles for pastors in Brazil and five motorcycles for pastors in El Salvador.

Speaker 1 55:17

last year I wanted a motorcycle.

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But that's not why the mission gives you that money. Now I want to be transparent, even more transparent. Nobody's given me 10,000 more in 10 years. So, brother Hill, if you know anybody that that facilitates that kind of offerings, let me know. I'd be glad to find another place to buy motorcycles for national pastors. Well, I love you all. Thank you for being an apostolic mentoring today. We have one minute left and Sister Robinette loves it when I make announcements, so I want to make two to be a blessing to her. Don't forget we have the crusade in Brazil, july 2nd through the 8th, and we are building our team right now. We need to know if you want to be a part of that, and we need to know soon.

Speaker 4 57:06

We need to know if you want to be a part of that, and we need to know soon.

Speaker 1 57:11

Also thank you to our global apostolic mentoring family that's been helping us raise our PIMs to finish our deputation.

Speaker 4 57:20

Also thank you to our team of apostolic tutorials that help us to win a lot of compadres and missions to re-enter the field.

Global Harvest Conversation With Pastor Adam

Speaker 1 57:31

On Friday, global missions notified us that we only need 12 more 50 dollar partners, and we are completely done.

Speaker 4 57:41

On Friday, global missions notified us that we only need 12 more 50 dollar partners and missions to complete our mission.

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So if there are any pastors or fields or believers on this call today that are not yet partners with us, we would be so grateful if you would make that decision today.

Speaker 4 58:12

So if there are any pastors or fields on this call today that are not yet partners with us, we would be so grateful if you would make that decision today.

Speaker 1 58:22

Thank you to Sister Mitchell for translating today. We honor and esteem this great missionary. We had some challenges with our Spanish translations internet connection today and Sister Mitchell jumped right in to save us. Thank you to all of our translation team that's working behind the scenes. Somebody just put in the chat how do we become a partner? Send me a direct message on one of the social media accounts and I'll let you know. Next Monday, one PM, Eastern time we've got Pastor Adam Hunley with us.

Speaker 1 59:35

It's going to be a great session with the new general director of global missions, so come on and join Apacelic Mentoring next week and let's have a great time talking about global harvest. Love you all. Put yourselves off mute and say goodbye, and we'll call it even.

Speaker 4 1:00:08

Bless you, sir.

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See, you, see you, see you Love you.

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God bless you.